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  BOE letter: New lights new changes

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  re: adjustments to draw close to jehovah.

  dear brothers:.

  some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of gods name and what it re p- resents have been made to the first chapter of draw close to jehovah.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Stuff like this is music to my ears.

  My parents live where broadband is very expensive. And they are not technically skilled. WT's words are still very fixed in their heads that the Interwebs are only for distributing porn, ruining marriages, and spreading apostacy, a complete tool of the devil. But since some children need it for satanic homework and adults may need it for satanic jobs, the GB instructs that the Interwebs should only be accessible on one computer located in a very public area of the "true Christian" home.

  LOL. That's certainly "old light". Now dubs need to have Internet access everywhere and are using those devices during the meeting that had been previously considered as expensive tools of the devil. My parent's don't like this sudden feeling that they're left behind because they are still using printed publications that are getting thinner and constantly out-of-date.

  And now they're supposed to go to their neighbors and tell them to learn about JWs on the Internet? LOL. This is wonderful. By all means, everyone should go on the Internet and google "Jehovah's Witness". Since there's only one "official and approved" website, the very first page of results will have all sorts of interesting links to TTATT!

  
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  2014 YB Should Be Out Anytime....Partaker Number Predictions?

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. bible

  i think this is the year they finally take that dog out back and shoot it - no partaker number.

  but i've thought that for the last three years.

  lol.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Tower of Babel built by Babies!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the weekly tms bible reading assignment is not read, or not carefully read, by most of the sheeples.

  it doesn't really matter, because the consideration of the bible reading material is one of the shortest parts on the meeting with a limited number of comments, and those comments are restricted to less than 30 seconds or you will get counselled.

  over and over, the dubs are told to read the bible, yet the organization gives no real encouragement to read the bible by keeping everyone busy in the recruiting work and using relatively few scriptures in their "talks".. why?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "And this would have required all 4,000 males to all work together on the project. Who would run the farms needed to feed these people? Who would do the hunting?"

  Yet with so few people building this "tower", Jehovah was crapping his celestial pants and saying "There's nothing they can't do. I've got to do something before the tower gets high enough that they come up here and kick my ass!"
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  March 2014 - Food at the proper time regarding creation

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear brothers.

  after some struggling with trying to make the bible's account of creation square with the physical evidence presented by science i was so pleased to recieve the latest awake magazine (march 2014) via jw.org with it's lead article "the untold story of creation".. your detailed article provided vast amounts of credible and scientifically based evidence that counters even the most determined of evolutionists.

  this article shall be an absolute blessing in the ministry and shall no doubt be instrumental in changing the minds of countless ones we meet.. the material is certainly new, detailed and clearly presents more than compeling evidence of as yet unknown arguments and evidence for creation that are irrefutable.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "God’s existence is not limited
  by time. He has always existed
  and will always exist. Hence, no
  one created him."

  It's pretty easy to correct a little misunderstanding.

  "The universe's and life's existence is not limited
  by time. These have always existed
  and will always exist. Hence, no
  imaginary being in some other dimension is required."

  I think that makes far more sense.
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  What a great first Christmas!

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a great day!.

  once the kids were in bed, i set up my daughters new kitchen play set took me a little over 2 hours but was fun.

  this morning we came down stairs and the joy on my kids faces and the wow!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Christmas through the eyes of children, that's what makes it such great fun.
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  The Gospel was preachedthroughout the world in the 1st century

  by maccauk11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "truly i tell you ( those standing infrontof the messiah) staring him in the face.

  "some of you will not die until you see the son of man coming in his kingdom".

  he repeated that also to the high priest.

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  "whole world" = "Roman empire of the first century AD"

  
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  They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.

  as regards pursuing higher education?

  the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Care of elderly relatives should be the responsibility of their children or the state if there is any provision for that. Full stop. Not the congregation. We recently had a case where an extremely incapacitated sister requested financial aid from the congregation."

  That is the policy of WT, but what does the Bible say? The first century congregation had an arrangement of collecting and distributing to the needy and elderly. Jesus said that generosity to those in need would be repaid by God. There is far more scriptural support for christian congregations providing charity than for christians to preach door to door.

  As far as expecting the children to support needy relatives, that may be okay if they're all JWs. But what of the pioneer couple that became JWs decades ago despite the objections of their families, and this couple followed JW advice to not have kids until the "new system"? They preached to their nonJW family about the WT truthz that gift-giving around the holidays and birthdays is evil, and that armageddon was coming very soon to destroy nonJWs... like in 1975. Now it's 2014, they're sick, tired, and penniless. So now they're supposed to beg charity from the family that they alienated decades ago? And since JWs condemn the government as being satanic and soon to be destroyed, what kind of a message are they sending when they take out their government-funded card to pay for their groceries, and get in line for government benefits when they've never really paid into the system? Doesn't it admit by their actions that they put their trust in the government and that god can do nothing to help them?

  Why shouldn't an extremely incapacitated sister be able to request help from the congregation? You realize that perfectly healthy brothers and couples with enough free time to support themselves with jobs are getting paid very well by WT Corp, circuits, local congregations, and get green handshakes on top of it all? They're called circuit overseers and district overseers.
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  Why did you leave the Jehovah's Witness faith?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys & gals!.

  i've put together a poll on jwb that asks the simple question - why did you leave the jehovah's witnesses?.

  i would really appreciate it if you could take part.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I left because I developed a severe allergy to bullsh!t.

  Since that option wasn't available, I went with my second choice.
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  Questions on Evolution and the Existence of God and...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is one huge rant, but i want to put my own questions and doubts in writing.. i am a fading jw who has become agnostic... i still believe in "god" and "jesus," but i simply cannot explain to people why i believe in them.

  i just do.. about the existence of god: it is an infinite regress.

  "all things were created by someone"... well... who created god?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "Please let me know what I should read to enlighten me."
  
  Raised as JWs, we were trained that any questions we would ever have are answered in a WT Corporation publication. In reality, we were only allowed to ask those questions that were printed on the bottom of the pages of those publications. Here we thought we had ALL the answers, when we had considered very few questions, most of which had answers like, "God did it!", and "Very soon now." If we strayed and began to ask questions like "Why did Jehovah create thousands of unique species of blood-sucking mosquitoes?", we were told that such questions were a waste of time that should be spent preaching, because WT didn't have a published answer to such a question... or thousands of other valid questions.
  
  Now that we have come to know... and love... TTATT, there is not a new set of colorful brochures and paperback books from WatchTTATT Corporation that have all the complete answers to every question. There is no "TTATT Bible", a carefully written manuscript that accurately records all the history of life back to the first proteins. And by the nature of carbon based life form materials, we don't preserve particularly well after we perish.

  At least for me, it started to make sense that there would be a lot of unknowns about how and where life began. And since I don't believe in a creator (at least not in the "jehovahesque" biblical sense), I could accept that the best answers I could expect would be from whatever recent discoveries were made by science and not from the latest brochure from WT or any other religion.

  Although I still have a lot of unanswered questions, at least I don't have to blindly accept stories about illness being caused because a naked lady ate an apple from a talking snake, and I don't have to argue that evolution of life over billions of years is impossible, yet defend a story about how all the species of animals in the world today evolved from a very few species that could fit in a floating wooden box about 4000 years ago.

  A little something about the human brain:

  http://www.ted.com/talks/suzana_herculano_houzel_what_is_so_special_about_the_human_brain.html
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  Anybody have ideas about the double slit experiement with particles, how they react based on a human mind observing them?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.

  that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.

  however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  My nightmare: